wen is ichigo ever gonna be able to control his hollow

Hi. How far are you in the anime?
Since the following has already been shown in the anime, it does not count as a spoiler:

Ichigo is currently training with the Vaizards to lengthen the time of him being able to sustain his hollow-mask.



He already got "control" of his hollow after having an inner fight against it and winning by getting his killer-instinct from a Zaraki illusion.

expert99 are you an idiot or what?

Well, depends on what you mean by "control"... you mean more than 11 seconds or just being able to bring him out at will?

If the latter... then what Tightwad Sofa said.

I don't think he actually control's him,before he left the hollow said"Don't you ever forget...if you ever give me a chance,I'll drag you down and crush your skull,and one last warning.if you really wanna control my power,make sure you don't die before I show up again."so I think he will be coming back eventually...thats just my 2 cents on the situation.

2 cents?

Anyway he controls his hollow somewhat with him having hollow powers and being able to use black getsuga... it's like what they said about the king and his horse... for now, Ichigo is king.

my 2 cents is basically saying my information,I don't know much about how much of the hollows power Ichigo can control but I don't think the hollow is gonna let him get full control of it.

Well since we don't even know what "full" control is at the moment... we can't say anything for sure...

I am still wondering how Kubo will set up the last grand battle against Aizen... I mean nobody has a certain power that can beat him yet, and no one seems to be nearly strong enough.

I still think that he'll be smitten (smote, smited?) by God (or whatever the Bleach equivalent is, lol... the king?) when he tries to step into heaven or w/e it is he's trying to do.

Not only would that outcome make me laugh, but as no character in Bleach has any hope of defeating Aizen without some sort of awful deus ex machina. Wait a minute... lol.

Smitten.

Proof?

Spoiler:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/smitten

And if so... the blow would had to have been dealt by the Soul Society King, since Aizen is trying to get in to his "dimension"... I guess that's like "heaven"?

Yep, I thought it was smitten (lol!).

Anyway... yeah, we know so little about the King, but... Aizen said that he wants to get into "heaven," and so I'm assuming that the King holds some sort of key or method to get into heaven... either that, or he's God himself.

Well you're in the anime discussion section... and it has recently been shown that Aizen's target is... in fact... the King's key. ...You remembered that from the manga, right?

Yes... but not the King's key, the key to the King.

Ok so he is going to enter the King himself? The "King" is a machine? You've lost me.

Do you think that the dimension the King is in holds a greater Key to "heaven"? Like there's an even greater place? O_O

LOL, no, it's the key to the dimension where the King is.

And considering that various sources have stated that Bleach seems to be based off Buddhist mythology, with SS as "false heaven" and HM as "false hell," coupled with the fact that we've seen "true hell," it seems only logical that there should be a "true heaven." And it would seem strange for the King not to have some sort of connection to that heaven... so my guess is that the king's job is dealing w/ true heaven, and all the dealings of false heaven/SS he left to the SS guys.

In other news, I think I should move this to manga discussion, lol.

Hmm.. no, it can stay as long as you don't start spoiling anything. I mean we're still talking anime here.

So on topic: I mean that if Ichigo WAS ever able to control his "full hollow", he STILL wouldn't be able to beat Aizen due to Aizen extreeeeme hypnotic shikai!

Wait, have they even brought up the king in the anime yet? It's been so long since I've watched the anime that I don't know. =_=

Sofaboy wrote:Well you're in the anime discussion section... and it has recently been shown that Aizen's target is... in fact... the King's key. ...You remembered that from the manga, right?

YES they have, I said so.. THERE. You need to read people's posts properly.

They have? Oh, OK. I haven't watched the anime in forever. I'll move it back in that case.

I already did. -_- Good God.

I'm currently re-reading the Grimmjow vs Ichigo battle in Hueco Mundo....I just can't get it out of my head how awesome the battle is progressing! Moreover, I'm soooo excited about what Rukia and Inoue would think once Ichigo fully explained to them his Vizard abilities