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    Post by expert99 on Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:39 am

    wen is ichigo ever gonna be able to control his hollow
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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by Sofaboy on Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:46 am

    Hi. How far are you in the anime?
    Since the following has already been shown in the anime, it does not count as a spoiler:

    Ichigo is currently training with the Vaizards to lengthen the time of him being able to sustain his hollow-mask.



    He already got "control" of his hollow after having an inner fight against it and winning by getting his killer-instinct from a Zaraki illusion.



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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by Yuzuki on Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:10 am

    expert99 are you an idiot or what?

    Well, depends on what you mean by "control"... you mean more than 11 seconds or just being able to bring him out at will?

    If the latter... then what Tightwad Sofa said.
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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by DondonSF on Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:08 pm

    I don't think he actually control's him,before he left the hollow said"Don't you ever forget...if you ever give me a chance,I'll drag you down and crush your skull,and one last warning.if you really wanna control my power,make sure you don't die before I show up again."so I think he will be coming back eventually...thats just my 2 cents on the situation.
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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by Sofaboy on Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:15 pm

    2 cents?

    Anyway he controls his hollow somewhat with him having hollow powers and being able to use black getsuga... it's like what they said about the king and his horse... for now, Ichigo is king.


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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by DondonSF on Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:43 pm

    my 2 cents is basically saying my information,I don't know much about how much of the hollows power Ichigo can control but I don't think the hollow is gonna let him get full control of it.
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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by Sofaboy on Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:01 am

    Well since we don't even know what "full" control is at the moment... we can't say anything for sure...

    I am still wondering how Kubo will set up the last grand battle against Aizen... I mean nobody has a certain power that can beat him yet, and no one seems to be nearly strong enough.


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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by Yuzuki on Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:48 am

    I still think that he'll be smitten (smote, smited?) by God (or whatever the Bleach equivalent is, lol... the king?) when he tries to step into heaven or w/e it is he's trying to do.

    Not only would that outcome make me laugh, but as no character in Bleach has any hope of defeating Aizen without some sort of awful deus ex machina. Wait a minute... lol.


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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by Sofaboy on Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:54 am

    Smitten.

    Proof?

    Spoiler:
    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/smitten

    And if so... the blow would had to have been dealt by the Soul Society King, since Aizen is trying to get in to his "dimension"... I guess that's like "heaven"?


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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by Yuzuki on Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:58 am

    Yep, I thought it was smitten (lol!).

    Anyway... yeah, we know so little about the King, but... Aizen said that he wants to get into "heaven," and so I'm assuming that the King holds some sort of key or method to get into heaven... either that, or he's God himself.


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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by Sofaboy on Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:00 am

    Well you're in the anime discussion section... and it has recently been shown that Aizen's target is... in fact... the King's key. ...You remembered that from the manga, right?


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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by Yuzuki on Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:05 am

    Yes... but not the King's key, the key to the King. Happy


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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by Sofaboy on Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:07 am

    Ok so he is going to enter the King himself? The "King" is a machine? You've lost me.

    Do you think that the dimension the King is in holds a greater Key to "heaven"? Like there's an even greater place? O_O


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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by Yuzuki on Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:10 am

    LOL, no, it's the key to the dimension where the King is.

    And considering that various sources have stated that Bleach seems to be based off Buddhist mythology, with SS as "false heaven" and HM as "false hell," coupled with the fact that we've seen "true hell," it seems only logical that there should be a "true heaven." And it would seem strange for the King not to have some sort of connection to that heaven... so my guess is that the king's job is dealing w/ true heaven, and all the dealings of false heaven/SS he left to the SS guys.

    In other news, I think I should move this to manga discussion, lol.


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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by Sofaboy on Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:14 am

    Hmm.. no, it can stay as long as you don't start spoiling anything. I mean we're still talking anime here.

    So on topic: I mean that if Ichigo WAS ever able to control his "full hollow", he STILL wouldn't be able to beat Aizen due to Aizen extreeeeme hypnotic shikai! Surprised


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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by Yuzuki on Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:20 am

    Wait, have they even brought up the king in the anime yet? It's been so long since I've watched the anime that I don't know. =_=


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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by Sofaboy on Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:24 am

    Sofaboy wrote:Well you're in the anime discussion section... and it has recently been shown that Aizen's target is... in fact... the King's key. ...You remembered that from the manga, right?

    YES they have, I said so.. THERE. You need to read people's posts properly.



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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by Yuzuki on Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:30 am

    They have? Oh, OK. I haven't watched the anime in forever. I'll move it back in that case. Shocked


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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by Sofaboy on Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:32 am

    I already did. -_- Good God.


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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by silverbullet16 on Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:40 pm

    I'm currently re-reading the Grimmjow vs Ichigo battle in Hueco Mundo....I just can't get it out of my head how awesome the battle is progressing! Moreover, I'm soooo excited about what Rukia and Inoue would think once Ichigo fully explained to them his Vizard abilities Heee heeee... Heee heeee... Heee heeee...
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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by PaladinKnight on Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:31 pm

    well i find it that even ichigo can't control his hollow form fully tho even if he was to be in his hollow form once he falls to unconsciousness while staying alive his hollow self will keep looking for an opening to pop out and take control again if i'm right his hollow self is growing strong each time i think
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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by Lovely9999RosesOfLove on Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:53 pm

    He's gettingto a point where he can hold his form for a long time.
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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by PaladinKnight on Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:09 am

    well that's after he fought grimmjow for the third time
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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by Sofaboy on Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:31 am

    ^Topic under "Bleach Anime Discussion". The fight has not ended yet in the anime.

    And yes. It seems as though Ichigo is quickly obtaining the power to maintain his hollow-mask on for a longer amount of time. I think it's rather because of how he is currently fighting, than because of his previous fights, because they both came and went pretty quickly compared to his 3rd fight against Grimmjow...


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    Re: Hollow Ichigo

    Post by PaladinKnight on Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:01 pm

    oh right my bad about the spoil ppl ignore wat i just said and continue enjoying the anime i was getting ahead of myself woop tongue

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